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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/02/brit-tv.html/comment-page-1#comment-18268</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just stumbled across this blog and thought i&#039;d leave opinions...it&#039;s certainly an interesting thought.

I think there are strong merits in Deron&#039;s original thoughts.  The standard and quality of British Television has diminished greatly over the past 10 years, thanks in no small part what i&#039;ll call the &quot;Simon Cowell Factor&quot;.  British networks have realised reality television, although never really scratching the cerebral itch, is cheap and populist, and as such matches the expectations of those who need ratings (the BBC) and those who needs advertising revenues.

What frustrates me is that American television is prepared to push the boundaries in the drama it creates, whereas British drama seems now to stick to tried and tested formulae.  Programmes such as 6 feet under, The West Wing, Sopranos, Heroes &amp; now Dexter all became (or have become) event television for me, all incredibly brave and utterly different in their own way.  British Television executives seem happy to stick to Crime stories of one sort or another or period drama - i get quite concerned that people still have a perception of England as some sort of Dickensian timewarp - and i find them tiresome.

We do have some quality drama, but whereas American drama can be introduced to other audiences, quality British drama is almost entirely parochial.  Shameless (Channel 4) is a classic example of this; a programme so British in essence it simply wouldn&#039;t make sense to anyone outside of these shores.  Other examples of this sort of programming are available, but they are becoming rarer and rarer; it&#039;s cheaper for Britain to import American drama - it&#039;s more expensive than we are able to produce and fulfills the needs of the mass audience.  Sadly, this is inevitable at the behest of the contemporary British scriptwriter, who cannot get his vision made because the budgets for drama have been spent on buying the rights for Heroes, or something similar.

Masterpiece Theater will ocntinue to do well, because the owrk is timeless and there will always be a requirement for quality period drama in Britain, but this needs to work alongside the likes of Life on Mars, Spooks, Prime Suspect, Shameless et al, certainly not in place of it, which i rather fear is the way it&#039;s going at present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just stumbled across this blog and thought i&#8217;d leave opinions&#8230;it&#8217;s certainly an interesting thought.</p>
<p>I think there are strong merits in Deron&#8217;s original thoughts.  The standard and quality of British Television has diminished greatly over the past 10 years, thanks in no small part what i&#8217;ll call the &#8220;Simon Cowell Factor&#8221;.  British networks have realised reality television, although never really scratching the cerebral itch, is cheap and populist, and as such matches the expectations of those who need ratings (the BBC) and those who needs advertising revenues.</p>
<p>What frustrates me is that American television is prepared to push the boundaries in the drama it creates, whereas British drama seems now to stick to tried and tested formulae.  Programmes such as 6 feet under, The West Wing, Sopranos, Heroes &amp; now Dexter all became (or have become) event television for me, all incredibly brave and utterly different in their own way.  British Television executives seem happy to stick to Crime stories of one sort or another or period drama &#8211; i get quite concerned that people still have a perception of England as some sort of Dickensian timewarp &#8211; and i find them tiresome.</p>
<p>We do have some quality drama, but whereas American drama can be introduced to other audiences, quality British drama is almost entirely parochial.  Shameless (Channel 4) is a classic example of this; a programme so British in essence it simply wouldn&#8217;t make sense to anyone outside of these shores.  Other examples of this sort of programming are available, but they are becoming rarer and rarer; it&#8217;s cheaper for Britain to import American drama &#8211; it&#8217;s more expensive than we are able to produce and fulfills the needs of the mass audience.  Sadly, this is inevitable at the behest of the contemporary British scriptwriter, who cannot get his vision made because the budgets for drama have been spent on buying the rights for Heroes, or something similar.</p>
<p>Masterpiece Theater will ocntinue to do well, because the owrk is timeless and there will always be a requirement for quality period drama in Britain, but this needs to work alongside the likes of Life on Mars, Spooks, Prime Suspect, Shameless et al, certainly not in place of it, which i rather fear is the way it&#8217;s going at present.</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/02/brit-tv.html/comment-page-1#comment-17701</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deron.. im not sure what you categorise as &quot;drama&quot;. Do you mean cop shows, or Desperate Housewives... or Dramatisations of books/plays etc. I&#039;m not being augmentative it just seems maybe UK Tv transmitted in the USA is very selective, as i&#039;m sure we get selected high lights of US Telly..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deron.. im not sure what you categorise as &#8220;drama&#8221;. Do you mean cop shows, or Desperate Housewives&#8230; or Dramatisations of books/plays etc. I&#8217;m not being augmentative it just seems maybe UK Tv transmitted in the USA is very selective, as i&#8217;m sure we get selected high lights of US Telly..</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/02/brit-tv.html/comment-page-1#comment-17427</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Oh, Amy. You said, &quot;&lt;em&gt;The Prisoner&lt;/em&gt;.&quot; I knew it had to start sooner or later. And I&#039;ve been dreading the moment, in a sense, because I&#039;ve feared what opening the floodgates would unleash. Feared both the revelation of a &#039;trainspotting&#039; aspect of my self and the possibility of fellow trainspotters picking up on it. Annoying other &#039;flockers and friends with geekish references.

Out with it. I am one of those &lt;em&gt;Prisoner&lt;/em&gt; aficionados. Not so bad as once-upon-a-time. No longer sport a button bearing the trademark image of the penny-farthing bicycle. But you could get me going with just the least little reference.

Matter of fact . . . No. No. No, Sheila. Don&#039;t go there.

&quot;Be seeing you.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Oh, Amy. You said, &#8220;<em>The Prisoner</em>.&#8221; I knew it had to start sooner or later. And I&#8217;ve been dreading the moment, in a sense, because I&#8217;ve feared what opening the floodgates would unleash. Feared both the revelation of a &#8216;trainspotting&#8217; aspect of my self and the possibility of fellow trainspotters picking up on it. Annoying other &#8216;flockers and friends with geekish references.</p>
<p>Out with it. I am one of those <em>Prisoner</em> aficionados. Not so bad as once-upon-a-time. No longer sport a button bearing the trademark image of the penny-farthing bicycle. But you could get me going with just the least little reference.</p>
<p>Matter of fact . . . No. No. No, Sheila. Don&#8217;t go there.</p>
<p>&#8220;Be seeing you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/02/brit-tv.html/comment-page-1#comment-17424</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean &#039;beaver&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean &#8216;beaver&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Mabli</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/02/brit-tv.html/comment-page-1#comment-17421</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Mabli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH, Cindy and Sheila: I just tagged a post with &quot;cooch&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH, Cindy and Sheila: I just tagged a post with &#8220;cooch&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Mabli</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/02/brit-tv.html/comment-page-1#comment-17419</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Mabli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe they don&#039;t show any of the good Brit drama on BBC America because they want to appeal to Americans who typically enjoy crap on TV. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061287/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Prisoner&lt;/a&gt; from the 1960&#039;s is another good British series. They should re-run that instead of showing that new Dr. Who shite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they don&#8217;t show any of the good Brit drama on BBC America because they want to appeal to Americans who typically enjoy crap on TV. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061287/" rel="nofollow">The Prisoner</a> from the 1960&#8242;s is another good British series. They should re-run that instead of showing that new Dr. Who shite.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Scroggins</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/02/brit-tv.html/comment-page-1#comment-17407</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy Scroggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That solves it, then. Brits don&#039;t do drama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That solves it, then. Brits don&#8217;t do drama.</p>
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		<title>By: Deron Bauman</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/02/brit-tv.html/comment-page-1#comment-17405</link>
		<dc:creator>Deron Bauman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only if you&#039;re American.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only if you&#8217;re American.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Scroggins</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/02/brit-tv.html/comment-page-1#comment-17404</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy Scroggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do they sell emoticons at Home Depot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do they sell emoticons at Home Depot?</p>
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		<title>By: Deron Bauman</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/02/brit-tv.html/comment-page-1#comment-17401</link>
		<dc:creator>Deron Bauman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jon, I know this will probably dig the hole deeper, but what I was attempting to suggest was that Brits don&#039;t do drama &lt;i&gt;well&lt;/i&gt;.

And no, I&#039;m not talking about historically. I&#039;m just talking about tv. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jon, I know this will probably dig the hole deeper, but what I was attempting to suggest was that Brits don&#8217;t do drama <i>well</i>.</p>
<p>And no, I&#8217;m not talking about historically. I&#8217;m just talking about tv. <img src='http://www.clusterflock.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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