September 12, 2008


clusterflock open thread, 2

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33 Responses to “clusterflock open thread, 2”

  1. Jake on September 12th, 2008 at 9:53 am

    Holy cow, Sarah Palin! You are a moron. Not to say that the average American should be able to discuss the Bush Doctrine at length, but certainly anyone running for national office should have a real command of basic foreign policy. And I’m not even someone who thinks that you knew what you were doing to begin with!

    Did anyone else read the article about how she demonstrated such a paucity of foreign policy knowledge that they hope Charlie Gibson asks her opinion on patently false things? That would be television gold.

  2. Sheila Ryan on September 12th, 2008 at 10:24 am

    What a delicious and splendid idea — grilling Palin on purely imaginary matters of foreign policy. Delicious, splendid — and –sadly — surely — far too subtle.

  3. Jake on September 12th, 2008 at 11:04 am

    Governor Palin,

    Given your stance on the Russia/Georgia situation, do you feel the Justice League is setting an unfortunate president by expanding to include Omega Red?

  4. Deron Bauman on September 12th, 2008 at 11:08 am

    wait. haven’t they been having imaginary foreign policy discussions for the past eight years?

  5. Sheila Ryan on September 12th, 2008 at 11:29 am

    Bingo.

  6. Jake on September 12th, 2008 at 11:31 am

    Bingo? Shoot. All I needed was B-6.

  7. Sheila Ryan on September 12th, 2008 at 12:03 pm

    Next week. Thursday night. Your lucky night.

  8. Kyle Wegner on September 12th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    To me, more astonishing than the Bush Doctrine gaffe was her response to the question of if she gave any thought to whether she was experienced enough to be VP. I’m not sure I can say it any better than what I posted on Twitter right after I heard her answer:

    ABC World News asks Palin if she thought she was experienced enough for VP. Her answer: I didn’t think, I just accepted. WTF HOW IS SHE HERE

    140 characters isn’t much, but I think that sums up my reaction.

  9. Deron Bauman on September 12th, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    I didn’t think. I just accepted.

  10. Aaron Winslow on September 12th, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    In what respect, Charlie?

  11. Jake on September 12th, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    I mean this in all seriousness, since I was seven when Dukakis coughed up a 30 point lead. Is this the beginning of a meltdown, or is this something where people who see this as ridiculous on its face just having a really good time with this?

    I’m in Spain and kind of self-select my media through RSS. What kind of serious discussion is this getting Stateside?

  12. Kyle Wegner on September 12th, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    What kind of serious discussion is this getting Stateside?

    Luckily there are a lot of media folks bringing up her subpar (to put it lightly) answers, but none of them are willing to say what they want to say, that is, “These answers show she is not fit for the (V)P office.”

    Obviously the media can’t take a hard stance, but they are throwing nerf balls at this wide open target.

  13. Cindy Scroggins on September 12th, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    Jake, after 8 years of Bush/Cheney, it takes a lot of stupid to bring on a meltdown. I will say, though, that I was happy to find colleagues at work discussing the interview when I arrived today, and it was featured on NPR this morning.

  14. andrea on September 12th, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    wait, this is an open thread, right? so can i vent (excellent word choice) for a moment about the UNBELIEVABLY PUTRID STENCH that’s infested my car? the smell whose source eludes me, despite having just spent my lunch hour pulling up the floor mats, wiping every surface and spraying half a bottle of “odor neutralizer?” this is either an invisible half-drunk sippy cup or an invisible rodent who got violently ill just before dying.

  15. Deron Bauman on September 12th, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    Cindy, what were people saying?

  16. Deron Bauman on September 12th, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    andrea, do you have an ex who is out to get you? I’ve heard stories of sardines under carpeting.

  17. Jake on September 12th, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    Have you considered something crawling into the undercarriage/ventilation and dying? It happens.

  18. andrea on September 12th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    Deron: not that I know of, but wow, I’m gonna file that one away for the next time someone crosses me. raaaar! Um, anyway.

    Jake: definitely have considered that, especially since I can’t see any visible source inside the car. It seems to be coming from the floor, and from the center of the car. And it’s unreal. I mean, no mouldering sippy cup or putrefying mcdonald’s bag can approach this level of gross. So if that’s the case, what does one do about it? wait for it to… finish?

  19. Daryl Scroggins on September 12th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    Huh–I just assumed that Andrea was referring to the stink of the Palin interview she heard on the car radio. I know it got all up in my hair and shit when I heard it.

  20. Jake on September 12th, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    Andrea:

    Believe it or not, I think it’s something a mechanic can take care of.

    Everyone:

    Speaking of foul smells, does anyone here read Wonkette? From today’s McCain interview on The View

    What is the world coming to when the ladies on The View ask John McCain the toughest questions he’s gotten in weeks? And yet even these hardened journalists don’t follow up on one of his most infuriating talking points of this whole infuriating campaign, which is that he had to start running ads that were complete utter laughable bullshit lies because Obama didn’t want to debate him as often as McCain would have liked. This is akin to saying, “I was forced to smother your house in a truckload of diarrhea because you wouldn’t answer my phone calls.”

    Stinky, but effective.

  21. andrea on September 12th, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    Maybe I should offer John McCain a ride in my car….

  22. Kyle Wegner on September 12th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Cover up dead animal smell with old man smell? No thank you!

  23. Cindy Scroggins on September 12th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    Deron, they were saying what we are saying–lots of “Can you believe its.” Of course, I hired most of these people, so perhaps it’s just my little bubble.

  24. Deron Bauman on September 12th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    so I’m guessing already Obama supporters?

  25. Michael Smith on September 12th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    Maybe you should donate your car to the McCain campaign. It could follow the straight talk express around and pick up the bullshit it leaves behind.

  26. Cindy Scroggins on September 12th, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    Yeah, everyone in the library is already firmly in the Obama camp. But I’ll find out this weekend what my mother and brother think of it. They’re the kind of voters I’m most concerned about in this election: they consider themselves Independents. They supported Hillary and think Obama “stole” the nomination. They don’t want to admit it, but I know that they would have a hard time voting for a black man. They say they’re just not going to vote, that they won’t vote for McCain, but I’m not so sure. I’m doing my best to make subtle suggestions to sway them. No vote at all is better than a vote for McCain.

    It’s all about the swing voters, y’all.

  27. andrea on September 12th, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    @Michael: Oh, that’s a win.

  28. Patrick Burleson on September 12th, 2008 at 2:45 pm

    Here’s what McCain feels is important for the office of the presidency:

    http://www.cnewmark.com/2008/09/john-mccain-att.html

    I love the smell of hypocrisy in the afternoon.

  29. Lucy on September 12th, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    Um, has anybody got any links to something cheerful, preferably with serious belly laugh potential? I haven’t gotten out much today. Thanks.

  30. Kris on September 12th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    On the importance of foreign policy knowledge and experience of presidential ‘teams’, I do feel it pertinent to add that Bush’s 2000 mob (esp. Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rove) came in with the most experienced and (in theory, at least) knowledgeable crew for many, many years.

  31. Kathy Hilen-Smith on September 12th, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Just watched Charlie-on-Sarah #2.

    Looks to me like Charlie’s balls froze off in the cold.

  32. Lucy on September 12th, 2008 at 8:56 pm

    Here’s an article that might soothe those of you who are getting squeezed by the daily news madness. Looks like what to do is to volunteer.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/13/uselections2008.usa

  33. Don’t let flocking make you stupid. : clusterflock on September 13th, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    [...] soaked up. But I did want to respond to something from over in yesterday’s open thread, where Jake wrote, I mean this in all seriousness, since I was seven when Dukakis coughed up a 30 point lead. Is this [...]

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