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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t let flocking make you stupid.</title>
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		<title>By: tuscadero</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/09/dont-let-flocking-make-you-stupid.html/comment-page-1#comment-249593</link>
		<dc:creator>tuscadero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, very important post. thank you. I&#039;m an unapologetic progressive democrat and after the last 8 years I shied away from getting into political discussions because people made me want to scream. but recently, on a few occasions, I swallowed hard and tried to understand why one friend still believes there was good evidence to invade Iraq and why another believes in her heart that Obama is a &quot;secret Muslim.&quot; Did I mention I live in Massachusetts? The most liberal state in the Union, except for maybe California! It was so frustrating to hear these people who I love, who I consider intelligent on most other points, voicing these thoughts that—to me—were pure ignorance.
I kept my temper, and suggested evidence to the contrary, explained where I was coming from, I can&#039;t say I changed any minds, but I didn&#039;t leave their assumptions unchallenged. The only point when I offended either of them, is when I apologized to the Iraq war supporter for discussing politics. He had actually enjoyed the conversation and was tired of people pussyfooting around for fear of offending.
Pop a hole in the echo chamber, I say. Let some air in the vacuums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, very important post. thank you. I&#8217;m an unapologetic progressive democrat and after the last 8 years I shied away from getting into political discussions because people made me want to scream. but recently, on a few occasions, I swallowed hard and tried to understand why one friend still believes there was good evidence to invade Iraq and why another believes in her heart that Obama is a &#8220;secret Muslim.&#8221; Did I mention I live in Massachusetts? The most liberal state in the Union, except for maybe California! It was so frustrating to hear these people who I love, who I consider intelligent on most other points, voicing these thoughts that—to me—were pure ignorance.<br />
I kept my temper, and suggested evidence to the contrary, explained where I was coming from, I can&#8217;t say I changed any minds, but I didn&#8217;t leave their assumptions unchallenged. The only point when I offended either of them, is when I apologized to the Iraq war supporter for discussing politics. He had actually enjoyed the conversation and was tired of people pussyfooting around for fear of offending.<br />
Pop a hole in the echo chamber, I say. Let some air in the vacuums.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Simone</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/09/dont-let-flocking-make-you-stupid.html/comment-page-1#comment-248393</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Simone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>India, you always seem to do my favorite posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>India, you always seem to do my favorite posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/09/dont-let-flocking-make-you-stupid.html/comment-page-1#comment-248289</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean, when my Galveston friend wrote to tell me about looters gutting her house before it was flooded -- and headed the message &quot;Pirates of the Caribbean&quot;. Well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, when my Galveston friend wrote to tell me about looters gutting her house before it was flooded &#8212; and headed the message &#8220;Pirates of the Caribbean&#8221;. Well.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/09/dont-let-flocking-make-you-stupid.html/comment-page-1#comment-248288</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. Funny-ha ha is funny-cruel, at least to some extent. Otherwise it&#039;s not funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. Funny-ha ha is funny-cruel, at least to some extent. Otherwise it&#8217;s not funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/09/dont-let-flocking-make-you-stupid.html/comment-page-1#comment-248286</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheila, is there really any other kind of humour?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheila, is there really any other kind of humour?</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/09/dont-let-flocking-make-you-stupid.html/comment-page-1#comment-248283</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A Czech born in the wrong place.&quot; That&#039;s almost amusing, in --you know -- a black-humorous kind of way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A Czech born in the wrong place.&#8221; That&#8217;s almost amusing, in &#8211;you know &#8212; a black-humorous kind of way.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/09/dont-let-flocking-make-you-stupid.html/comment-page-1#comment-248282</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vaculík is supremely underappreciated, and &lt;i&gt;The Guinea Pigs&lt;/i&gt; is a favourite. I&#039;ve always thought of myself as a Czech born in the wrong place.

Actually, it was only a couple of months ago that I eventually got around to reading &lt;i&gt;The Fateful Adventures of the Good Soldier Švejk During the World War&lt;/i&gt;, after years and years of putting it off. It was well worth the wait!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vaculík is supremely underappreciated, and <i>The Guinea Pigs</i> is a favourite. I&#8217;ve always thought of myself as a Czech born in the wrong place.</p>
<p>Actually, it was only a couple of months ago that I eventually got around to reading <i>The Fateful Adventures of the Good Soldier Švejk During the World War</i>, after years and years of putting it off. It was well worth the wait!</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/09/dont-let-flocking-make-you-stupid.html/comment-page-1#comment-248281</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know the feeling, Kris. The French have been taking the wind out of &lt;em&gt;my&lt;/em&gt; sails for years now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the feeling, Kris. The French have been taking the wind out of <em>my</em> sails for years now.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see &quot;Tory anarchist&quot;. To be honest, that&#039;s always been &quot;libertarian&quot; to me. Australia has a lot less distrust of government historically though, too much peace and quiet you see.

I can’t complain though. During my brief flirtation with the arts, I once endeavoured to get up a concept “surrealistic realism”, and then discovered that Baudrillard beat me to it by many years. Took the wind out of my sails, I’ll tell you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see &#8220;Tory anarchist&#8221;. To be honest, that&#8217;s always been &#8220;libertarian&#8221; to me. Australia has a lot less distrust of government historically though, too much peace and quiet you see.</p>
<p>I can’t complain though. During my brief flirtation with the arts, I once endeavoured to get up a concept “surrealistic realism”, and then discovered that Baudrillard beat me to it by many years. Took the wind out of my sails, I’ll tell you.</p>
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		<title>By: Daryl Scroggins</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/09/dont-let-flocking-make-you-stupid.html/comment-page-1#comment-248276</link>
		<dc:creator>Daryl Scroggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kris--this reminded me of a splendid novel--Ludvik Vaculik&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Guinea Pigs&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kris&#8211;this reminded me of a splendid novel&#8211;Ludvik Vaculik&#8217;s <i>The Guinea Pigs</i>.</p>
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