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	<title>Comments on: Bruce Lee Plays Ping Pong with Nunchucks</title>
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		<title>By: Jon Cone</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/11/bruce-lee-plays-ping-pong-with-nunchucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-301320</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Cone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc -- We obviously see  this clip through different glasses, though I find your choice of words telling: you &#039;buy the clip.&#039; Which is precisely my point about the clip being an advertisement: a form that should immediately raise our critical awareness. Why would an ad make such a connection, between consumerist technology and a pop culture icon?  Well, I would guess, on some level, the advertisers want us to believe that the coolness Bruce Lee demonstrates in the clip will become available to use if we buy their product; whether the ad is successful in making this connection is another matter. Your question -- &#039;To what avail?&#039; --   suggests to me the  ad is a failure, though it is tremendously entertaining. (I especially enjoyed Lee&#039;s spin and high-kick combination.) As for the supposed &#039;softballs&#039; that are fed to Lee: maybe, maybe not. Or perhaps certain shots had to be slowed down in order to better co-ordinate with Lee&#039;s motions and so forth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc &#8212; We obviously see  this clip through different glasses, though I find your choice of words telling: you &#8216;buy the clip.&#8217; Which is precisely my point about the clip being an advertisement: a form that should immediately raise our critical awareness. Why would an ad make such a connection, between consumerist technology and a pop culture icon?  Well, I would guess, on some level, the advertisers want us to believe that the coolness Bruce Lee demonstrates in the clip will become available to use if we buy their product; whether the ad is successful in making this connection is another matter. Your question &#8212; &#8216;To what avail?&#8217; &#8212;   suggests to me the  ad is a failure, though it is tremendously entertaining. (I especially enjoyed Lee&#8217;s spin and high-kick combination.) As for the supposed &#8216;softballs&#8217; that are fed to Lee: maybe, maybe not. Or perhaps certain shots had to be slowed down in order to better co-ordinate with Lee&#8217;s motions and so forth.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/11/bruce-lee-plays-ping-pong-with-nunchucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-297856</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheila - 

*brrrrrrap!* oh, excuse me - still full from yesterday.

...love to hear the gist. at your liesude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheila &#8211; </p>
<p>*brrrrrrap!* oh, excuse me &#8211; still full from yesterday.</p>
<p>&#8230;love to hear the gist. at your liesude.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/11/bruce-lee-plays-ping-pong-with-nunchucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-297530</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smiling a lop-sided smile here, Doc. I&#039;ll drop you an email and share the gist of my exchange with Daryl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smiling a lop-sided smile here, Doc. I&#8217;ll drop you an email and share the gist of my exchange with Daryl.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Hobson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Hobson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love watching all those old Bruce Lee movies. Even so, I never did want to take karate or tai kwon do or whatever. I don&#039;t like being hit or kicked. Also, I was too afraid that if I actually really kicked someone that I&#039;d end up apologizing all over the place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love watching all those old Bruce Lee movies. Even so, I never did want to take karate or tai kwon do or whatever. I don&#8217;t like being hit or kicked. Also, I was too afraid that if I actually really kicked someone that I&#8217;d end up apologizing all over the place.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 02:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheila  - 

no, i had not heard of it, as I certainly wouldn&#039;t be a member.

; &#039;   )

if i ever get out tro the left coast again, i&#039;ll drop in.

Jon - 

i tend to buy the clip; he was being fed, at times, &quot;softballs&quot; by his opponents, allowing him to slow down, speed up as necessary, yes - but i don&#039;t see the hallmarks of film/video manipulation in this. if it&#039;s a fake, it&#039;s a george lucas-class fake. and to what avail?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheila  &#8211; </p>
<p>no, i had not heard of it, as I certainly wouldn&#8217;t be a member.</p>
<p>; &#8216;   )</p>
<p>if i ever get out tro the left coast again, i&#8217;ll drop in.</p>
<p>Jon &#8211; </p>
<p>i tend to buy the clip; he was being fed, at times, &#8220;softballs&#8221; by his opponents, allowing him to slow down, speed up as necessary, yes &#8211; but i don&#8217;t see the hallmarks of film/video manipulation in this. if it&#8217;s a fake, it&#8217;s a george lucas-class fake. and to what avail?</p>
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		<title>By: Daryl Scroggins</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/11/bruce-lee-plays-ping-pong-with-nunchucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-297133</link>
		<dc:creator>Daryl Scroggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 22:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon--  The matter of accuracy is worthy of reflection, but if I were to doubt this clip it would be on other grounds, namely: why are we just now seeing this footage when several biographers have apparently not seen it?  It may well turn out to be contrived, but it&#039;s great fun to see it anyway and I think he surely could have done--and did do--many things that would have astonished all in equal measure.

Sheila: I haven&#039;t seen that museum, but if we are ever out that way I will surely take it in. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon&#8211;  The matter of accuracy is worthy of reflection, but if I were to doubt this clip it would be on other grounds, namely: why are we just now seeing this footage when several biographers have apparently not seen it?  It may well turn out to be contrived, but it&#8217;s great fun to see it anyway and I think he surely could have done&#8211;and did do&#8211;many things that would have astonished all in equal measure.</p>
<p>Sheila: I haven&#8217;t seen that museum, but if we are ever out that way I will surely take it in. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Cone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Cone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee was an absolute genius of the physical, no doubt.  But I stil don&#039;t believe the video. It is an advertisement, for starters. An advertisement. Lee&#039;s display with the nunchucks is incredible enough on its own.  I simply don&#039;t believe the nunchuck could be  used to direct accurately, again and again, a ping pong ball. In addition, there is something so contrived about the match: two sweating non-entities helpless before the god-like Lee -- at one point he seems to rear as he holds his hands above his head directing the ball with insane accuracy downward at the table.  And it is wise to remember a nunchuck can break bones!  I&#039;m sure it could easily break a ping pong ball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee was an absolute genius of the physical, no doubt.  But I stil don&#8217;t believe the video. It is an advertisement, for starters. An advertisement. Lee&#8217;s display with the nunchucks is incredible enough on its own.  I simply don&#8217;t believe the nunchuck could be  used to direct accurately, again and again, a ping pong ball. In addition, there is something so contrived about the match: two sweating non-entities helpless before the god-like Lee &#8212; at one point he seems to rear as he holds his hands above his head directing the ball with insane accuracy downward at the table.  And it is wise to remember a nunchuck can break bones!  I&#8217;m sure it could easily break a ping pong ball.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/11/bruce-lee-plays-ping-pong-with-nunchucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-297088</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc. Daryl: Have either of you had any contact with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.martialartsmuseum.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Martial Arts History Museum&lt;/a&gt; (the outfit that recently moved from Santa Clarita to LA)? Just wondering. If so (or even if not), probably more appropriate for email conversation, but I&#039;d be interested to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc. Daryl: Have either of you had any contact with the <a href="http://www.martialartsmuseum.com/" rel="nofollow">Martial Arts History Museum</a> (the outfit that recently moved from Santa Clarita to LA)? Just wondering. If so (or even if not), probably more appropriate for email conversation, but I&#8217;d be interested to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheila -

my apologies - i fogot to thank you for the kind words.

Daryl - 

sorry about the disks;  herniated l4/l5-l5/s1 myself  few years ago and it took me 6 mos of rehab to get back in &quot;shape&quot;. i still don&#039;t lift anything but my kids.

as for the dreams, you know it. i dream about being still able to run a 57 sec quarter mile; about running a 4:10 mile; about playing sets and sets and sets and sets of tennis in tennis in 90 degree heat/90 % humidity; about being able to close the gap on the receiver and either intercepting or teaching him how to call his momma; about being able to halo drop and then hump all day all night all the next day w/o a break and still deliver at the end; about a whole bunch of slow twitch muscles that allowed me lock a joint and pitch you headlong before you relized I had avoided your thrust...hell, i still dream of flying!

; &#039;   )

aging does suck; perhaps more so for those of us who were &#039;natural&#039; atheletes than &#039;normal&#039; people. and i trust here you realize i&#039;m not disparaging anyone - it is what it is...

i would have to dig out the belt certis, but, yeah, Norris called his style Tang Su Do for a while, then something else. last i heard he was calling it wang chuck or some such nonsense; it was a mishmash of 3 or 4 things really. and you&#039;re right - the one time i talked with him he was aloof enough to almost be dismissive, not &#039;humble&#039; in any sense of the word....

no, can&#039;t say i got to work with Inasantos, but knew of him - who didn&#039;t?  he was out by Venice Beach and while that&#039;s not &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; far away from SD, I didn&#039;t much care for LA and avoided it.. tell you what, though, i do wish i had learned kempo from &lt;b&gt;someone&lt;/b&gt;, i&#039;d feel better about the rudimentary stick skills i do have and my cherry walking stick...

; &#039;   )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheila -</p>
<p>my apologies &#8211; i fogot to thank you for the kind words.</p>
<p>Daryl &#8211; </p>
<p>sorry about the disks;  herniated l4/l5-l5/s1 myself  few years ago and it took me 6 mos of rehab to get back in &#8220;shape&#8221;. i still don&#8217;t lift anything but my kids.</p>
<p>as for the dreams, you know it. i dream about being still able to run a 57 sec quarter mile; about running a 4:10 mile; about playing sets and sets and sets and sets of tennis in tennis in 90 degree heat/90 % humidity; about being able to close the gap on the receiver and either intercepting or teaching him how to call his momma; about being able to halo drop and then hump all day all night all the next day w/o a break and still deliver at the end; about a whole bunch of slow twitch muscles that allowed me lock a joint and pitch you headlong before you relized I had avoided your thrust&#8230;hell, i still dream of flying!</p>
<p>; &#8216;   )</p>
<p>aging does suck; perhaps more so for those of us who were &#8216;natural&#8217; atheletes than &#8216;normal&#8217; people. and i trust here you realize i&#8217;m not disparaging anyone &#8211; it is what it is&#8230;</p>
<p>i would have to dig out the belt certis, but, yeah, Norris called his style Tang Su Do for a while, then something else. last i heard he was calling it wang chuck or some such nonsense; it was a mishmash of 3 or 4 things really. and you&#8217;re right &#8211; the one time i talked with him he was aloof enough to almost be dismissive, not &#8216;humble&#8217; in any sense of the word&#8230;.</p>
<p>no, can&#8217;t say i got to work with Inasantos, but knew of him &#8211; who didn&#8217;t?  he was out by Venice Beach and while that&#8217;s not <i>that</i> far away from SD, I didn&#8217;t much care for LA and avoided it.. tell you what, though, i do wish i had learned kempo from <b>someone</b>, i&#8217;d feel better about the rudimentary stick skills i do have and my cherry walking stick&#8230;</p>
<p>; &#8216;   )</p>
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		<title>By: Deron Bauman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deron Bauman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cindy, it is no accident, I think, we refer to physical mastery as a kind of genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cindy, it is no accident, I think, we refer to physical mastery as a kind of genius.</p>
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