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		<title>By: India</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2009/07/groove-while-you-can.html/comment-page-1#comment-528496</link>
		<dc:creator>India</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a depressing conversation. Here&#039;s something to cheer us up:

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(Via &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/evbjone/status/2487370176&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Elisabeth&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a depressing conversation. Here&#8217;s something to cheer us up:</p>
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<p>(Via <a href="http://twitter.com/evbjone/status/2487370176" rel="nofollow">Elisabeth</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2009/07/groove-while-you-can.html/comment-page-1#comment-528435</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: 40 kgs of dried food a month, I would go up to a butcher on Meath street and get 30 or 40 pork hearts every tuesday, put them in a very large backpack and store them in my fridge. There&#039;s a lot of blood in pork hearts. I didn&#039;t eat meat. I learned a lot about anatomy though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: 40 kgs of dried food a month, I would go up to a butcher on Meath street and get 30 or 40 pork hearts every tuesday, put them in a very large backpack and store them in my fridge. There&#8217;s a lot of blood in pork hearts. I didn&#8217;t eat meat. I learned a lot about anatomy though.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2009/07/groove-while-you-can.html/comment-page-1#comment-528430</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it is brutally hard. I had to walk away from that situation. I was too young to be so absorbed in it. Our three cats here came from that time. When I moved I brought them here and &lt;a href=&quot;http://lucytakesoff.blogspot.com/2009/07/missus-today.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; they pad around in their dressing gowns here every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is brutally hard. I had to walk away from that situation. I was too young to be so absorbed in it. Our three cats here came from that time. When I moved I brought them here and <a href="http://lucytakesoff.blogspot.com/2009/07/missus-today.html" rel="nofollow"> they pad around in their dressing gowns here every day.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Phil Bebbington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Bebbington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucy, there are a few foreigners here that are doing what you  did - catching a few and making their lives happier, even a few Greeks doing the same, but, in the more remote villages it is still a problem.

Yeah, different mentality - dogs have it slightly better but not a lot.

You often see at the airport people shipping dogs and cats out - it is  difficult and at times heartbreaking.

There is a British woman locally who does what she can with food and the like - she told us she is getting through 40Kgs of dried food a month - we always buy her a stack before we leave - scraping at the edges really, but, you feel you have to do something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucy, there are a few foreigners here that are doing what you  did &#8211; catching a few and making their lives happier, even a few Greeks doing the same, but, in the more remote villages it is still a problem.</p>
<p>Yeah, different mentality &#8211; dogs have it slightly better but not a lot.</p>
<p>You often see at the airport people shipping dogs and cats out &#8211; it is  difficult and at times heartbreaking.</p>
<p>There is a British woman locally who does what she can with food and the like &#8211; she told us she is getting through 40Kgs of dried food a month &#8211; we always buy her a stack before we leave &#8211; scraping at the edges really, but, you feel you have to do something.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2009/07/groove-while-you-can.html/comment-page-1#comment-528426</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also: then when I moved to Denmark, I was constantly running into people who had dogs who had been rescued from Greece. There is clearly some charity rescuing these animals and repatriating them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also: then when I moved to Denmark, I was constantly running into people who had dogs who had been rescued from Greece. There is clearly some charity rescuing these animals and repatriating them.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2009/07/groove-while-you-can.html/comment-page-1#comment-528425</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil I dealt with this kind of situation when I lived in Dublin. I took care of a colony of feral cats; fed them nightly, got them all spayed and neutered one by one in a painstaking process of catching them individually in a special cat trap/ sneaking them into my flat/ bringing them to the vet/ keeping them in my flat for a couple of days afterwards to recuperate/ rinse and repeat. I was piss young, doing all this. I have a lot of stories from that time.

I think I could not live in a culture that treated animals so indifferently as you&#039;re talking about in Crete. I know enough about myself to know that would be very hard indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil I dealt with this kind of situation when I lived in Dublin. I took care of a colony of feral cats; fed them nightly, got them all spayed and neutered one by one in a painstaking process of catching them individually in a special cat trap/ sneaking them into my flat/ bringing them to the vet/ keeping them in my flat for a couple of days afterwards to recuperate/ rinse and repeat. I was piss young, doing all this. I have a lot of stories from that time.</p>
<p>I think I could not live in a culture that treated animals so indifferently as you&#8217;re talking about in Crete. I know enough about myself to know that would be very hard indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Bebbington</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2009/07/groove-while-you-can.html/comment-page-1#comment-528423</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Bebbington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A litter of new born kittens were thrown in a bin here a few days ago! 

I was fiddling in the 2&#039;X6&#039; patch of dirt I call a garden, it contains an orange tree and a Hibiscus along with numerous other smaller plants - I was picking away when I was hissed at, on closer examination I saw one of the local cats along with kittens that were that small they must have just been born, one was pure white. I went got some food in case mum was exhausted and went to bed - more food was left first thing - I went to check mid morning to be told by my neighbour that the kittens were gone. I asked where - I was told in the rubbish!

I rather hope that my neighbour who is a gentle charming man at least killed them first - I suspect not. 

He was probably doing the mother a favour who is partially disabled anyway - she would have struggles, the kittens would have struggled and been pregnant whilst still kittens. The trouble is, well, not the trouble - this is Crete, they don&#039;t see them in the way us Brits and Americans  do - it somehow seemed okay and yet at the same time was terribly upsetting.

The mother looked for them for a few days but no seems okay - no doubt she will be pregnant again in a few weeks and so the cycle continues. 35 Euros to get a cat spayed - on the whole no one is interested.

I felt the urge to share - for what it&#039;s worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A litter of new born kittens were thrown in a bin here a few days ago! </p>
<p>I was fiddling in the 2&#8242;X6&#8242; patch of dirt I call a garden, it contains an orange tree and a Hibiscus along with numerous other smaller plants &#8211; I was picking away when I was hissed at, on closer examination I saw one of the local cats along with kittens that were that small they must have just been born, one was pure white. I went got some food in case mum was exhausted and went to bed &#8211; more food was left first thing &#8211; I went to check mid morning to be told by my neighbour that the kittens were gone. I asked where &#8211; I was told in the rubbish!</p>
<p>I rather hope that my neighbour who is a gentle charming man at least killed them first &#8211; I suspect not. </p>
<p>He was probably doing the mother a favour who is partially disabled anyway &#8211; she would have struggles, the kittens would have struggled and been pregnant whilst still kittens. The trouble is, well, not the trouble &#8211; this is Crete, they don&#8217;t see them in the way us Brits and Americans  do &#8211; it somehow seemed okay and yet at the same time was terribly upsetting.</p>
<p>The mother looked for them for a few days but no seems okay &#8211; no doubt she will be pregnant again in a few weeks and so the cycle continues. 35 Euros to get a cat spayed &#8211; on the whole no one is interested.</p>
<p>I felt the urge to share &#8211; for what it&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2009/07/groove-while-you-can.html/comment-page-1#comment-528422</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto. From one who is flanked by a large ginger cat (sprawled on a printer) and a Heinz 57 dog (sprawled on the floor.)

I am a guest in a household possessed of three resident cats (Archy, Betty, and Veronica), two visiting cats (Mo[zart] and Jada), and a part-time resident dog (Raleigh).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto. From one who is flanked by a large ginger cat (sprawled on a printer) and a Heinz 57 dog (sprawled on the floor.)</p>
<p>I am a guest in a household possessed of three resident cats (Archy, Betty, and Veronica), two visiting cats (Mo[zart] and Jada), and a part-time resident dog (Raleigh).</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2009/07/groove-while-you-can.html/comment-page-1#comment-528421</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, India. You need some. This from a person who has a cat sitting on her right now, um, enacting her kittenhood too-early-weaned issues on my shirt. Ow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, India. You need some. This from a person who has a cat sitting on her right now, um, enacting her kittenhood too-early-weaned issues on my shirt. Ow.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.clusterflock.org/2009/07/groove-while-you-can.html/comment-page-1#comment-528420</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/05/lena-gazing-grooming-hunting.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lena&lt;/a&gt; is considered a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.messybeast.com/tricolours.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;dilute (or grey) tortoiseshell&#039;&lt;/a&gt;.

Perhaps the victim in the photograph had jeered, &quot;Ginger cat! Ginger cat!&quot; one time too many, promoting the ginger to fight back against ginger-bullying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.clusterflock.org/2008/05/lena-gazing-grooming-hunting.html" rel="nofollow">Lena</a> is considered a <a href="http://www.messybeast.com/tricolours.htm" rel="nofollow">&#8216;dilute (or grey) tortoiseshell&#8217;</a>.</p>
<p>Perhaps the victim in the photograph had jeered, &#8220;Ginger cat! Ginger cat!&#8221; one time too many, promoting the ginger to fight back against ginger-bullying.</p>
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